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by Hagoth
Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Conflating the Church with Jesus Christ
Replies: 4
Views: 944

Re: Conflating the Church with Jesus Christ

Just listen to conference talks. When they talk about obeying God or following the teaching of Jesus they are often substituting those names when they really mean "church." Bruce McConkie even said members should NOT try to have a direct personal relationship with Jesus. That's just for important ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why is God so poor?
Replies: 1
Views: 390

Why is God so poor?

Joseph Smith lost the 116 pages because he so desperately needed Martin's $3000 that he risked the entire project, even after God told him TWICE not to do it. Then God had to dictate an entire section of the D&C (Section 19) to try to scare/woo Martin into coughing up the money. He even appealed to ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:04 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creative Mormon Mythology
Replies: 178
Views: 201060

Re: Creative Mormon Mythology

[Bednar/Soaking meme] Wikipedia has a very informative article about soaking, including illustrations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soaking_(sexual_practice) There is also a historical precedent, regarding Apostle Albert Carrington: In 1885, one of the LDS Church's top leaders, 73-year-old apostle ...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:18 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creative Mormon Mythology
Replies: 178
Views: 201060

Re: Creative Mormon Mythology

moksha wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:53 pm A recreation of Joseph on top of Fanny performing the First Sealing would spur museum attendance.
Animatronics?
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith takes the Fifth.
Replies: 3
Views: 1296

Re: Joseph Smith takes the Fifth.

He probably didn't want to talk about it any more because it was a failed financial exploit. I can't think of any instances of him teaching from it. The only thing I remember Joseph saying about the BoM in that time period was to scold members for not reading it.
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1100
Views: 5468727

Re: Keeping up with Trump

... Greenland would not stand a chance against the US military. Greenland is a territory of Denmark. Denmark is a member of NATO. The US is obligated to repel all threats to the sovereignty and autonomy of any NATO country. We would find ourselves in a war against not only our closest allies, but ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apologists: Good, Bad, Mediocre?
Replies: 6
Views: 1633

Re: Apologists: Good, Bad, Mediocre?

One big problem with apologetics is that the tools apologists use work equally well for just about any belief system. Apologists from any two religions with mutually disharmonious claims would call out apologist from the other group using the same tactics they themselves are using; an LDS apologist ...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Happy New Year!
Replies: 11
Views: 3398

Re: Happy New Year!

One of the miracles of the Jaredite voyage that generally gets overlooked is how they all washed up on the same beach at the same time after a year of being blown around by raging storms.
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Happy New Year!
Replies: 11
Views: 3398

Re: Happy New Year!

My favorite New Years mental experiment: Imagine you are a Jaredite. On January first you seal yourself into your barge, along with your family, livestock, barrels of live fish, hives of bees, food and water for a year (for humans and animals), and all the seeds, tools, etc. you will need to restart ...
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Happy New Year!
Replies: 11
Views: 3398

Re: Happy New Year!

A reunion sounds great!
by Hagoth
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Merry Christmas NOMies
Replies: 7
Views: 2851

Re: Merry Christmas NOMies

And, while we're at it, a happy New Year!
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lamanite Story from Siberia
Replies: 3
Views: 1963

Re: Lamanite Story from Siberia

Why have no Modern-day Saints stepped forward with the revised story of Lamanites from Siberia? Nope, but that seems like an obvious next step. I guess the closest thing is the Gospel Topics DNA essay mentions the remains of a "Paleo-Eskimo" in Alaska that date to the time of the Jaredites, which ...
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Merry Christmas NOMies
Replies: 7
Views: 2851

Re: Merry Christmas NOMies

wtfluff wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:16 pm May the sunlight shine a tiny bit longer each day!
I have faith that it will... up to a certain point.
by Hagoth
Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Merry Christmas NOMies
Replies: 7
Views: 2851

Re: Merry Christmas NOMies

Spaghetti Monster bless us, every one!
by Hagoth
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:31 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1100
Views: 5468727

Re: Keeping up with Trump

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by Hagoth
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Inoculating young children
Replies: 6
Views: 3200

Re: Inoculating young children

There is a bit of a fuss lately about a lesson on lds.org that is directed to young children. It concerns polygamy. Any thoughts? See: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-stories-2025/44-plural-marriage?lang=eng I would hope even a Sunbeam would be wise enough to ...
by Hagoth
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Officially declared non tithe payer and proud of it
Replies: 4
Views: 2192

Re: Officially declared non tithe payer and proud of it

Congratulations! The church wants your time and money. It's very freeing to put a stake in the ground for those things and declare that they will get no more from you. ... or telling me "it's great to see you, brother sparky!" when they've made no actual effort to get to know me. Boy, I remember ...
by Hagoth
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Resurrection of MV, testifying that Beetbox lives
Replies: 2
Views: 3064

Re: Resurrection of MV, testifying that Beetbox lives

Wow. Great to hear from you again!
by Hagoth
Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How do we know the Church has repented?
Replies: 12
Views: 5816

Re: How do we know the Church has repented?

Correct answer: when Outer Darkness freezes over.
by Hagoth
Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
Replies: 17
Views: 7594

Re: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?

Here's another. Substituting the words "God" and "we/us" for "Church." Listen to just about any conference talk by one of the Q15. Every time they tell you what God wants you to do, or needs you to do, you can do that little word switch to make their statement more accurate. They obviously have ...