NOM

I have become quite busy with work which as it happens lines up pretty well with my hobbies. I have also gotten pretty involved in a professional society where I run a week long camp and we teach kids about range land management. It takes quite a bit of time but its pretty rewarding.

This month was my oldest son's 12th birthday. I wondered if it would be bittersweet for me, and it was not. I have moved on I guess. He also does not seem to be interested in ordination, at least that he has discussed with me.

I know of many good people, including me. If you want to show your wife that there are good people who have left the church, show her yourself. That's the most important person that she and your children will see every day. Don't lie about stuff. If you are embarrassed about drinking coffee, hold ...

You know, it is not my “motherland” at all. My earliest memory of church is being lost and crying, standing in an hallway as people pushed past me after my family just moved wards. When the lady who found me asked what class I went to, I didn’t know, then she asked how old I was, I held up three fin ...

I haven't been posting as much lately, but I still lurk and appreciate the posts and read through most of them. Posting has slowed some recently and we haven't had many new converts, but this is still the place to find thoughtful posts and discussions. I post less because I'm in a better place so I ...

Ugh. That's something I really didn't enjoy when I was in, now that I'm out it's really unappealing. I feel like it's a general Christian thing though, and even worse with evangelicals. All you have to do is comment on the sunset and their talking about Jesus' love being borne on its rays with their ...

I think Just This Guy's response is a very valid one. When I was exiting I spent many hours on my knees trying to get an answer. I eventually came to the conclusion that if I took life seriously God would not fault me for following my truth. At least the kind of God most would want to believe in ...

I have picked up some new reading material that I intend to make my way through slowly by Joseph Campbell. Curiously Campbell studied at Dartmouth College joining impressive alum's such as Hyrum Smith! I have started to read his "Myths to live by" book. It has been thought provoking so far. My ...

The other reason is similar in that they do a lot of attacks against the apologists. I don’t give a s*** what the apologists are saying, so why would I be interested in arguments against them. I am just too far out of the church to care about apologists for it. They are dead wrong, so why argue w ...

My kids just didn't get baptized. They still are not. I explained to my DW and extended family that I would feel un-authentic doing it despite my unbelief. I explained that I also would be uncomfortable with someone else doing it, and if someone else did I would be having a very in depth detailed ...

We belong to an ATVing club and every month there are 4 or 5 new families that have just moved in from California and my husband says it is the same at church, every week, mostly retired couples bragging about “escaping from hellifornia.” They are quickly bringing all of California’s over popul ...

One last thought. Throw out the word theft and replace with wealth transfer. That’s how I see it happen. I certainly get that and agree. But, at that point, it becomes pretty much similar to how merica' operates and not especially unique to Mormonism. I realize that the point of the OP was not how u ...

I recently made a career switch out of a job that felt quite important in it's arena. It allowed me to hobnob a little bit with politicians, it was smack in the middle of some contentious social and economic policy arenas, and was considered one of the level and knowledgeable heads in the room. I ...

As a missionary in Norway I had plenty of experience teaching African refugees. I have no doubt that the church views Africa as a goldmine of converts because they are remarkably receptive to the message. They seem to be a fairly superstitious people and believing in angels delivering golden plates ...

Prayer circles was the cult cherry on top that I had to swallow when I went through for the first time. I went into the endowment room freaked out after my initiatory ordeal where I was molested by several old men. Then we watched a movie. "Alright, this isnt so bad" thought I. After the robing I ...

You might have been on the tail end of posting when I got involved here, but I will say that some of your posts were helpful. So thanks for being around. I have been at real peace with life for the last 3-4 years. The phoenix NOMs got me through a lot, and now I am enjoying the fruits of their ...

I've been putting this off. The last episode detailing the ordeals of being a non-believing bishop was in early September. Our bishopric hit the 6 month mark in mid October, and here we are now in December. So I guess I've really got 7 1/2 months down. That's so much easier! /s Now that you have ...

I'm pretty much in your same boat as far as kids go. I haven't really told my kids much, but they know something is up because I don't go and I drink coffee. My daughter came up to me at one point and asked if I was going to go to hell because I drank coffee. But my wife takes them to church and ...

Hi Graey, I was also clued in by a cowboy wearing red chaps. I just wanted to come and congratulate you, and to say I think you should decline this. Is it an opportunity to make a difference in peoples lives? Maybe. It is also something that will detract from your quality of life significantly. It ...

My brother blessed a baby when I happened to be in town for a temple wedding that I also was not going to be a part of in the traditional sense. This baby blessing was going to be all my brothers and dad. He asked me beforehand if I would like to participate. I said that I did not know how anyone ...