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Funny how those Californians leave to get away from the chaos but then want to change Utah to be more like the place they left.


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Mormonism has a real duality to it. Many good things community, education encouragement, healthy living for the most part. On the other side you have misogamy, lying for the lord, and a host of behavior modification rituals. All said I would much rather live among mormons than many other groups Sent ...

It gets much easier as time goes on. One day you will realize you have not been to church in 6 months.


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I think it could have some validity. You look at the current prophet and he has upset the apple cart for really no reason other than ego. Having grown up in the same ward as RMN I can attest he is a bit of a narcissist. Not all together bad person just full of himself. I can see how other members of ...

Trump should probably go to jail but I dispute that Mormons as a whole support him. That seems to be the mantra of those who dislike the church to put the majority of believers in Utah into the Trump camp. Some do but there are many more liberal members I think who dislike him. Sent from my iPhone ...

I think they are both equally useful as in not at all.


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Think I will pass. TV today is overrun with Dark and depressing shows. Not my kind of entertainment


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Hagoth wrote:The cheeseburger at Ray's Tavern in Green River, UT. I plan my trips around it.

Love Ray’s. Its always the last stop on the way home from A weekend in Moab. The word must be out. I was there two weeks ago and it was packed.


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They are just shuffling the chairs on the Titanic. If a brand is working you generally don’t mess with it.

If you are losing market share or profits you tend to start scheming of ways to turn it around.

Maybe RMN fancies himself going down with the ship.


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The trouble with social media is it allows an otherwise insignificant but vocal minority to appear much larger and mainstream. I don’t do any social media. I find it exhausting and of limited information value. I do love youtube however. You can learn how to fix anything there. Sent from my iPhone u ...

Land itself is always valuable, but a temple is a unique structure I doubt could be used for much else. What will the church do when the inevitable happens and the decline in membership is to apparent to overlook. Projections say that almost every industrialized nation will see a population decrease ...

The church is a more benevolent authoritarian regime. Those at the top can do what they want with no one to resist. There is no mechanism to put a stop to crazy behavior. Short of outright rebellion the leader rules with absolute authority.


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The best way i found to not get the call is just become semi inactive. Or totally. It gets you the stigma of an apostate. Who wants an apostate speaking.


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Tried to listen but it was to painful. Same reason i can no longer read stories about hobbits and superheroes. Just to much fantasy for me. I want to give Rod credit for coming on but it only works if Dehlin is nice to him. Otherwise he could never stand up to real scrutiny. In some ways it scares ...

alas wrote:You know we have talked before that when the church leaders say “God,” they really mean “the leaders of the church”. So, what he is really saying is that the church’s love for its members is conditional. And I totally agree with him.

That makes sense!


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In my view what sets God apart from man is his ability to love unconditionally. It is easy to love those that we agree with and are like us. Much harder to love the odd ball or even harder the tyrant. From personal experience i have found it much easier to love others not like me as an apostate than ...

Forget who gets the keys. The real question is who gets the checkbook


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If Pres Nelson controls the whole thing does that make him one of the richest men in the world


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I find it so hypocritical how the church runs around saying they are the most family oriented church. In reality their doctrine is anything but family friendly. There will be few if any intact families in heaven. I personally can not think of any family where every member is so perfect to make it to ...

God I am right here. If you need me to so something just pay me a visit and I will be glad to listen. Please no speaking through prophets, or old books. I don’t like guessing what you want. In the meantime i will just go about my business muddling through as though you are not there because I dont h ...